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	<title>Comments on: Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University Review: Week 4</title>
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		<title>By: Wild Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2010/03/11/dave-ramsey-financial-peace-university-review-week-4/comment-page-1/#comment-912074</link>
		<dc:creator>Wild Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoDebt2,
Yes CC</description>
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Yes CC</p>
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		<title>By: Wild Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2010/03/11/dave-ramsey-financial-peace-university-review-week-4/comment-page-1/#comment-912063</link>
		<dc:creator>Wild Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above it states that the avalanche (highest interest rate first) dept payment is better.  So, I ran my own $75,000 debt using both avalanche and snowball (Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above it states that the avalanche (highest interest rate first) dept payment is better.  So, I ran my own $75,000 debt using both avalanche and snowball (Dave</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I started reading this series I was hoping you would learn something (non-financial).  Keep trying and the articles are well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started reading this series I was hoping you would learn something (non-financial).  Keep trying and the articles are well written.</p>
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		<title>By: NoDebt2</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoDebt2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its alarming that some Ramsey devotees are so radical in their zealous pursuit of THE Plan that they glibly gloss over the VERY REAL shortcomings of using DCs vs. CCs.  Doug &amp; FisherMan parrot standard Ramsey fare in a mocking smug tone that is soooo characteristicly typical.  

Used properly CCs are a tool, not a crutch.  You can pay the balance off on them online every week if you want...  utilizing them much like a DC, but with the extra layer of protection, plus perqs, like cash-back points programs.  Its not high finance, by any means, but when my savings account is paying .75% per yr &amp; a CD is at about 1.5%, I&#039;d say getting between 1.0 &amp; 5.0% back in cash, simply by running my expenses through a CC, is an excellent use of CC as a tool.  

OBVIOUSLY, never put more on the CC than is ALREADY in the checking account, BUDGETED for spending!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its alarming that some Ramsey devotees are so radical in their zealous pursuit of THE Plan that they glibly gloss over the VERY REAL shortcomings of using DCs vs. CCs.  Doug &amp; FisherMan parrot standard Ramsey fare in a mocking smug tone that is soooo characteristicly typical.  </p>
<p>Used properly CCs are a tool, not a crutch.  You can pay the balance off on them online every week if you want&#8230;  utilizing them much like a DC, but with the extra layer of protection, plus perqs, like cash-back points programs.  Its not high finance, by any means, but when my savings account is paying .75% per yr &amp; a CD is at about 1.5%, I&#8217;d say getting between 1.0 &amp; 5.0% back in cash, simply by running my expenses through a CC, is an excellent use of CC as a tool.  </p>
<p>OBVIOUSLY, never put more on the CC than is ALREADY in the checking account, BUDGETED for spending!</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for Maggie or any other that have attended this seminar. Iknow we can save money in our budget and make changes and spend less and we can also sell some things. My question is what if your house is alreay paid off and you do not have any credit card debt and the things you have do noy have a payoff date. For instance the care for an elderly parent. That debt is not going to go away or be paid off, at least until the good Lord brings them home. Does he cover things like that? If your monthly debt (minus the budget savings) does not come to a zero balance? Like tuition for the next four years, nursing home costs, and other reoccuring expenses in the monthly budget. We are taking the class in april but I keep hearing about paying down credit cards and paying off your home neither of which we have to pay for now. 

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for Maggie or any other that have attended this seminar. Iknow we can save money in our budget and make changes and spend less and we can also sell some things. My question is what if your house is alreay paid off and you do not have any credit card debt and the things you have do noy have a payoff date. For instance the care for an elderly parent. That debt is not going to go away or be paid off, at least until the good Lord brings them home. Does he cover things like that? If your monthly debt (minus the budget savings) does not come to a zero balance? Like tuition for the next four years, nursing home costs, and other reoccuring expenses in the monthly budget. We are taking the class in april but I keep hearing about paying down credit cards and paying off your home neither of which we have to pay for now. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend, who recently had a fraudulent charge hit his debit card for over $4000.  He got it back within a few days, but I would prefer to have that hit my credit card so that I don&#039;t have it interfering with my main bank account.

Every day or so, I update all of my credit card balances in Quicken, and mark that amount as a future debit from my checking account.  Then I pay the monthly credit card bill in full when the bill arrives.  I will take anyday as opposed to having every charge hit my checking card via a debit card.  
 
Many people are not disciplined enough to use credit card effectively, so I assume the Ramsey method is best for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend, who recently had a fraudulent charge hit his debit card for over $4000.  He got it back within a few days, but I would prefer to have that hit my credit card so that I don&#8217;t have it interfering with my main bank account.</p>
<p>Every day or so, I update all of my credit card balances in Quicken, and mark that amount as a future debit from my checking account.  Then I pay the monthly credit card bill in full when the bill arrives.  I will take anyday as opposed to having every charge hit my checking card via a debit card.  </p>
<p>Many people are not disciplined enough to use credit card effectively, so I assume the Ramsey method is best for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nichole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nichole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to point out that the Visa Debit Card Policy states that your financial institution must replace your funds within 5 days.  Also, you can have a separate account with a debit card just for internet use and travel.  I&#039;ve done it in the past and never had a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to point out that the Visa Debit Card Policy states that your financial institution must replace your funds within 5 days.  Also, you can have a separate account with a debit card just for internet use and travel.  I&#8217;ve done it in the past and never had a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I&#039;m loving this review of the program. I don&#039;t have a pressing need to join, but I&#039;m glad for the insight on the religious factor here. If I ever did want to go or had a friend who wanted to go, I can let them know to be prepared for the religious angle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m loving this review of the program. I don&#8217;t have a pressing need to join, but I&#8217;m glad for the insight on the religious factor here. If I ever did want to go or had a friend who wanted to go, I can let them know to be prepared for the religious angle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Debt Free Dude ... I&#039;ve never thought of it that way. I&#039;m a big proponent of doing what works and, yes, if someone needs that psychological push to keep going, what&#039;s the harm? But, if the underlying debt behavior is emotional spending, then feeding that emotionality could actually sabotage their debt pay off. Or, for someone who makes emotional decisions it&#039;s a way to connect with them and get them on the road to being debt free by showing them the emotional benefit. lol, whatever works.

As for the others, I thought her arguments about debit vs. credit were plenty compelling. I almost never use my debit card and I use my credit cards for 95% of my purchases. I pay them off every month and accrue rewards in cash back and points. I can go all cash just fine, but why would I do that if I can get cash back from my credit card without even having to pay a yearly fee?

As for the protection it offers - heck yes. It is absolutely convincing to me that if I need to fight a fraudulant charge on a dc I am already out that money whereas I still maintain payment control with a cc. In fact, one of my credit card numbers was recently stolen, a physical card was manufactured and then used in South Africa. My cc company caught it, removed the charge and issued me another card with a new number. If that had happened with my debit card, I&#039;d be out over $500 (plus interest that I would have accrued had it stayed in my account) until this whole thing was resolved.

And if you&#039;re someone with a small bank balance, a $100 hold on your debit card for a hotel room (that sometimes takes 48-72 hours to clear) can make a big difference in your purchasing power. Shoot, the gas pumps check your card to see if you have at least $75 free to pump (as of 14 yrs ago when I worked at a gas station) - if you&#039;re on the raggedy edge already you may not have money clear for that on a debit card. I don&#039;t, but some people may keep their checking account artificially low because they want to keep the bulk of their cash in higher interest accounts.

Basically, I agree with the author that credit cards can be a useful tool if you are responsible with your money and pay your balance every month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Debt Free Dude &#8230; I&#8217;ve never thought of it that way. I&#8217;m a big proponent of doing what works and, yes, if someone needs that psychological push to keep going, what&#8217;s the harm? But, if the underlying debt behavior is emotional spending, then feeding that emotionality could actually sabotage their debt pay off. Or, for someone who makes emotional decisions it&#8217;s a way to connect with them and get them on the road to being debt free by showing them the emotional benefit. lol, whatever works.</p>
<p>As for the others, I thought her arguments about debit vs. credit were plenty compelling. I almost never use my debit card and I use my credit cards for 95% of my purchases. I pay them off every month and accrue rewards in cash back and points. I can go all cash just fine, but why would I do that if I can get cash back from my credit card without even having to pay a yearly fee?</p>
<p>As for the protection it offers &#8211; heck yes. It is absolutely convincing to me that if I need to fight a fraudulant charge on a dc I am already out that money whereas I still maintain payment control with a cc. In fact, one of my credit card numbers was recently stolen, a physical card was manufactured and then used in South Africa. My cc company caught it, removed the charge and issued me another card with a new number. If that had happened with my debit card, I&#8217;d be out over $500 (plus interest that I would have accrued had it stayed in my account) until this whole thing was resolved.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re someone with a small bank balance, a $100 hold on your debit card for a hotel room (that sometimes takes 48-72 hours to clear) can make a big difference in your purchasing power. Shoot, the gas pumps check your card to see if you have at least $75 free to pump (as of 14 yrs ago when I worked at a gas station) &#8211; if you&#8217;re on the raggedy edge already you may not have money clear for that on a debit card. I don&#8217;t, but some people may keep their checking account artificially low because they want to keep the bulk of their cash in higher interest accounts.</p>
<p>Basically, I agree with the author that credit cards can be a useful tool if you are responsible with your money and pay your balance every month.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Stutts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Stutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is more than one way to skin a cat. What works for one person may not work for another. The purpose of Dave&#039;s plan is exactly the same as any other real get out of debt plan. I still have one credit card that I use for internet purchases - and pay off every month. I also have a 30 year traditional mortgage that I just took out - as I am now 63, I will probably never see that mortgage paid off. But it is a whopping $388 a month because of the large down payment I put up. I have no other debt.

Dave&#039;s plan will work if people follow it. But other plans can also work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is more than one way to skin a cat. What works for one person may not work for another. The purpose of Dave&#8217;s plan is exactly the same as any other real get out of debt plan. I still have one credit card that I use for internet purchases &#8211; and pay off every month. I also have a 30 year traditional mortgage that I just took out &#8211; as I am now 63, I will probably never see that mortgage paid off. But it is a whopping $388 a month because of the large down payment I put up. I have no other debt.</p>
<p>Dave&#8217;s plan will work if people follow it. But other plans can also work.</p>
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