Comments on: Is the Conversion to Digital TV an Economic Stimulus Package in Disguise? http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/ Bridging the gap between saving money and investing Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:17:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jay Gatsby http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-285696 Jay Gatsby Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:51:39 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-285696 I have 3 TVs in my house - 2 19" and 1 27". My wife are rarely home, and when we are, spend more time on the computer than we do watching TV. I personally haven't had cable TV since 1992. Running the numbers (assuming an average of $45/mo), I've saved approximately $12,000! While it's true I've missed out on many aspects of popular culture (e.g., the Sopranos, Comedy Central shows, etc...) those shows are now available to me on Netflix through my $15/mo subscription. When you boil everything down, it's cheaper to go with over-the-air digital television and a $15/mo Netflix subscription, than to subscribe to cable or satellite TV. I may hook up my old VCR or save shows to my 500GB hard drive for later playback (no TiVo for me -- why pay for something like that?) I have 3 TVs in my house - 2 19″ and 1 27″. My wife are rarely home, and when we are, spend more time on the computer than we do watching TV. I personally haven’t had cable TV since 1992. Running the numbers (assuming an average of $45/mo), I’ve saved approximately $12,000!

While it’s true I’ve missed out on many aspects of popular culture (e.g., the Sopranos, Comedy Central shows, etc…) those shows are now available to me on Netflix through my $15/mo subscription.

When you boil everything down, it’s cheaper to go with over-the-air digital television and a $15/mo Netflix subscription, than to subscribe to cable or satellite TV. I may hook up my old VCR or save shows to my 500GB hard drive for later playback (no TiVo for me — why pay for something like that?)

]]> By: Annie http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-285578 Annie Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:31:38 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-285578 While I honestly really have no idea what HDTV/DTV, etc actually IS (or that DTV is taking over the world next year), all I know is that if I convert to anything from cable, it's going to cost me more money and that's not including the electricity bill to run all this stuff. HDTV uses up to 4 TIMES the amount of electricity that a regular TV does. No thanks! I have an older TV, but I'm still conflicted about getting rid of cable entirely. I do like to watch TV, but know I would accomplish much more if I didn't have it at all. While I honestly really have no idea what HDTV/DTV, etc actually IS (or that DTV is taking over the world next year), all I know is that if I convert to anything from cable, it’s going to cost me more money and that’s not including the electricity bill to run all this stuff. HDTV uses up to 4 TIMES the amount of electricity that a regular TV does. No thanks!

I have an older TV, but I’m still conflicted about getting rid of cable entirely. I do like to watch TV, but know I would accomplish much more if I didn’t have it at all.

]]> By: Monroe on a budget http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-284909 Monroe on a budget Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:14:04 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-284909 My community has an authorized electronic recycling drop-off site at the Habitat for Humanity ReStore. I took a non-functional computer printer to the site today, and it was amazing to see the piles and piles of (old-fashioned ?) television sets that were in the dropoff area. My community has an authorized electronic recycling drop-off site at the Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

I took a non-functional computer printer to the site today, and it was amazing to see the piles and piles of (old-fashioned ?) television sets that were in the dropoff area.

]]> By: Trent Hamm http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-284712 Trent Hamm Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:03:23 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-284712 I've found that very few people seem to be affected at all by the conversion - and the only people that will be affected seem to be largely unaware of it. I told my brother - who lives in the middle of nowhere - about it and he seemed to not even get what I was talking about. I’ve found that very few people seem to be affected at all by the conversion - and the only people that will be affected seem to be largely unaware of it. I told my brother - who lives in the middle of nowhere - about it and he seemed to not even get what I was talking about.

]]> By: Cindy M http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-283866 Cindy M Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:34:25 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-283866 Jennifer, I like your last paragraph. I'm irked over the whole business. I very reluctantly bought 2 el-cheapo converters with my 2 government coupons. I have 3 TVs with rabbit ears. To my dismay, when I tried to hook up the converters, they would not work; I'm thinking these 3 TVs are actually digital after all. I'm hanging on to the converters, thinking as a last resort that I might pick up an old TV at somebody's garage sale this summer (I've always had good luck with used electronic stuff, not being all that fussy). Like you, I like PBS occasionally and want to watch local news sometimes but to tell the truth, when I do turn a set on, I'm asleep in no time anyway. Guess I can stick to watching DVDs and using my old VCR when I feel the need to watch a screen, that or catch what I can on my PC. Jennifer, I like your last paragraph. I’m irked over the whole business. I very reluctantly bought 2 el-cheapo converters with my 2 government coupons. I have 3 TVs with rabbit ears. To my dismay, when I tried to hook up the converters, they would not work; I’m thinking these 3 TVs are actually digital after all. I’m hanging on to the converters, thinking as a last resort that I might pick up an old TV at somebody’s garage sale this summer (I’ve always had good luck with used electronic stuff, not being all that fussy). Like you, I like PBS occasionally and want to watch local news sometimes but to tell the truth, when I do turn a set on, I’m asleep in no time anyway. Guess I can stick to watching DVDs and using my old VCR when I feel the need to watch a screen, that or catch what I can on my PC.

]]> By: Rick Franics http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-283681 Rick Franics Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:40:47 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-283681 While the TV conversion may cause a lot of people to upgrade their TVs this change has been a long time in coming, so it doesn't seem plausible to me that it's an economic stimulus in disguise. It's a very reasonable technical advancement, if there were no government regulation I suspect it would have happened a long time ago. I recently got a $50 converter box, so I spent $10 after the coupon. Using the same rabbit ears antenna the signal quality is now significantly better. I would have been willing to pay a onetime $50 for that improvement, so that $10 is a real deal. The downsides of the converter box are the following: #1 Our old VCR does not have a digital tuner so the converter box has to be set to the correct channel for the VCR to record correctly. #2 Yet another remote for the box. While the TV conversion may cause a lot of people to upgrade their TVs this change has been a long time in coming, so it doesn’t seem plausible to me that it’s an economic stimulus in disguise. It’s a very reasonable technical advancement, if there were no government regulation I suspect it would have happened a long time ago.

I recently got a $50 converter box, so I spent $10 after the coupon. Using the same rabbit ears antenna the signal quality is now significantly better. I would have been willing to pay a onetime $50 for that improvement, so that $10 is a real deal.

The downsides of the converter box are the following:
#1 Our old VCR does not have a digital tuner so the converter box has to be set to the correct channel for the VCR to record correctly.
#2 Yet another remote for the box.

]]> By: Miranda http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-283670 Miranda Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:23:14 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-283670 I agree that there seems to be some sanctioned "money blowing" going on. However, if you get a TV with a digital tuner (many TVs now), the antenna isn't necessary. Most TVs have a built in tuner that will pick the local digital channels just fine. Of course, the antenna would add better quality and allow you to get channels from further away. Another interesting choice? Get a DVR. It can serve as a converter box and allow you to record shows in the bargain (and skip commercials). It costs more than a basic converter box ($150-$300 on average), but if you want to ditch the VCR for recording your shows it can be a good move. I agree that there seems to be some sanctioned “money blowing” going on. However, if you get a TV with a digital tuner (many TVs now), the antenna isn’t necessary. Most TVs have a built in tuner that will pick the local digital channels just fine. Of course, the antenna would add better quality and allow you to get channels from further away.

Another interesting choice? Get a DVR. It can serve as a converter box and allow you to record shows in the bargain (and skip commercials). It costs more than a basic converter box ($150-$300 on average), but if you want to ditch the VCR for recording your shows it can be a good move.

]]> By: henrik http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-283584 henrik Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:45:19 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-283584 Well The switch to digital TV is simply technical progress. And a good one at that, DTV and esp. HDTV is significantly better (at least in my part of the world) You should actually be gratefull that the government is handling out those coupons, In my country we have to pay for ourselves Although I gladly do because I get my money worth. Well The switch to digital TV is simply technical progress. And a good one at that, DTV and esp. HDTV is significantly better (at least in my part of the world)

You should actually be gratefull that the government is handling out those coupons, In my country we have to pay for ourselves

Although I gladly do because I get my money worth.

]]> By: Karen http://www.pfadvice.com/2008/04/14/is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise/#comment-283487 Karen Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:52 +0000 http://www.savingadvice.com/blog/2008/04/14/102098_is-the-conversion-to-digital-tv-an-economic-stimulus-package-in-disguise.html#comment-283487 One thing that irritated me about the converter box coupons was that they have such a short time period. I think you have to use them within 60 days. I signed up for my coupons early, because I generally do everything early. But I didn't know that when I did that, I'd get coupons that had to be used almost immediately. I don't get it - people who sign up later will get coupons that they can use later - it's not as if everyone has to buy a box before a certain time. So why the short time to use your coupons once you get them? I was planning on buying a converter box. Right now I have cable, but I might not in the future. But this isn't a good time for me financially (my job is uncertain) and I decided I didn't want to spend any money (even $20) for the next couple of months. By then, my coupons will be expired. One thing that irritated me about the converter box coupons was that they have such a short time period. I think you have to use them within 60 days. I signed up for my coupons early, because I generally do everything early. But I didn’t know that when I did that, I’d get coupons that had to be used almost immediately. I don’t get it - people who sign up later will get coupons that they can use later - it’s not as if everyone has to buy a box before a certain time. So why the short time to use your coupons once you get them?

I was planning on buying a converter box. Right now I have cable, but I might not in the future. But this isn’t a good time for me financially (my job is uncertain) and I decided I didn’t want to spend any money (even $20) for the next couple of months. By then, my coupons will be expired.

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