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		<title>By: CyP</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/12/20/luck-has-nothing-to-do-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-584427</link>
		<dc:creator>CyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, the fact is that is luck and there is work.In most areas of life (like the financial one) you can use lots of work to succeed using whatever skils you have. yes some may see it like luck and you can explain that although luck had a saying in that, it is you actions that made the situation permanent. Of corse that doesn&#039;t mean that luck does not exist in this situatuations too.And there are many people that use luck to succeed. But let&#039;s talk about other areas l;ike socials. For instance: you have an arbitrary choice to go on two rutes to get to work: by choosing one you are going to meet the girl of your dreams by chance , by choosing the other you are going to just go to work. This is luck in my opinion: When an arbitrary choice that has no actual relevance by itself turns in your favor! For instance you forget to close the water in bathroom and you go back for it. As so you are late 5 minutes, you loose the bus that is going to have a terrible accident that very day. This is luck : arbitrary choice that turns in your favor or not: if you hadn&#039;t come back you have lost your life...

Istroongly believe luck is there, and you can grab it if you want, but for that you have the &quot;inspiration&quot; to make the right arbitrary choices. That is what lucky people are in my opinion. For instance in your case, you didn&#039;t apply to all the jobs available, and didn&#039;t go to all the interviews: that would be rather hard to do. So the fact to you applied for that  job, and went to that interview it is just luck. Yes , the fact that you got the job and you succeded in it it is your work, but the initial step was an act of luck. you might have overlooked the firm for various reasons or not go to the interview because something happened , or got to late because of a traffic jam and thus lost the job. This is luck. To succes the start is usually pure luck, and the rest (keeping it) is usually work! Sometimes though no matter how much you work you just can keep it. This is luck again! So don&#039;t say there is no luck. To be no luck you should know all the possible outcomes of your arbitrary actions. That is so far impossible....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the fact is that is luck and there is work.In most areas of life (like the financial one) you can use lots of work to succeed using whatever skils you have. yes some may see it like luck and you can explain that although luck had a saying in that, it is you actions that made the situation permanent. Of corse that doesn&#8217;t mean that luck does not exist in this situatuations too.And there are many people that use luck to succeed. But let&#8217;s talk about other areas l;ike socials. For instance: you have an arbitrary choice to go on two rutes to get to work: by choosing one you are going to meet the girl of your dreams by chance , by choosing the other you are going to just go to work. This is luck in my opinion: When an arbitrary choice that has no actual relevance by itself turns in your favor! For instance you forget to close the water in bathroom and you go back for it. As so you are late 5 minutes, you loose the bus that is going to have a terrible accident that very day. This is luck : arbitrary choice that turns in your favor or not: if you hadn&#8217;t come back you have lost your life&#8230;</p>
<p>Istroongly believe luck is there, and you can grab it if you want, but for that you have the &#8220;inspiration&#8221; to make the right arbitrary choices. That is what lucky people are in my opinion. For instance in your case, you didn&#8217;t apply to all the jobs available, and didn&#8217;t go to all the interviews: that would be rather hard to do. So the fact to you applied for that  job, and went to that interview it is just luck. Yes , the fact that you got the job and you succeded in it it is your work, but the initial step was an act of luck. you might have overlooked the firm for various reasons or not go to the interview because something happened , or got to late because of a traffic jam and thus lost the job. This is luck. To succes the start is usually pure luck, and the rest (keeping it) is usually work! Sometimes though no matter how much you work you just can keep it. This is luck again! So don&#8217;t say there is no luck. To be no luck you should know all the possible outcomes of your arbitrary actions. That is so far impossible&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, finally an admission at least. You could have improved your lot, but chose not to.

Nothing wrong with that, but it&#039;s not going to get you a lot of sympathy points either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, finally an admission at least. You could have improved your lot, but chose not to.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with that, but it&#8217;s not going to get you a lot of sympathy points either.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s nice, and I probably could have become a hamburger manager if I had wanted to, but I never had any desire to do so.  I was flipping hamburgers solely to make some money to take classes in the fall.

So any &quot;solution&quot; for me would have to involve doing something else.  And I don&#039;t see others similarly situated getting management-track positions at 50+.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s nice, and I probably could have become a hamburger manager if I had wanted to, but I never had any desire to do so.  I was flipping hamburgers solely to make some money to take classes in the fall.</p>
<p>So any &#8220;solution&#8221; for me would have to involve doing something else.  And I don&#8217;t see others similarly situated getting management-track positions at 50+.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Minimum Wage -

Yes, I have flipped burgers.  That, along with tutoring college math, working at a local computer store, and tutoring high school math paid for my undergrad tuition.  

You woe is me act is old.  I was offered store manager within a year of starting at BK, and BK corporate offered to pay all my tuition if I would accept a regional assistant manager job with corporate after school.

Hillary - 

I did not sidestep your criticism, I said that if you wanted to give money to homeless shelters, go right ahead.  I just don&#039;t like hearing how it&#039;s my responsibility to &quot;help the less fortunate&quot; or other rubbish like that.  I choose to keep my money, as I believe a vast majority of the &quot;homeless&quot; could obtain gainful employment if there weren&#039;t so many enablers giving them handouts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minimum Wage -</p>
<p>Yes, I have flipped burgers.  That, along with tutoring college math, working at a local computer store, and tutoring high school math paid for my undergrad tuition.  </p>
<p>You woe is me act is old.  I was offered store manager within a year of starting at BK, and BK corporate offered to pay all my tuition if I would accept a regional assistant manager job with corporate after school.</p>
<p>Hillary &#8211; </p>
<p>I did not sidestep your criticism, I said that if you wanted to give money to homeless shelters, go right ahead.  I just don&#8217;t like hearing how it&#8217;s my responsibility to &#8220;help the less fortunate&#8221; or other rubbish like that.  I choose to keep my money, as I believe a vast majority of the &#8220;homeless&#8221; could obtain gainful employment if there weren&#8217;t so many enablers giving them handouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more thing...I suppose flipping hamburgers can be an okay job under favorable conditions.

I worked on 8 Mile.  Yeah, THAT 8 Mile.  With thousands of office workers within blocks, who would slam us every weekday at lunchtime.

I used to do the opening stuff, including scrubbing the grills which had soaked overnight in an acid tank.  Then I&#039;d do the setup and get everything going.  Then we&#039;d get slammed.  When I got home I was soaked.

A few times I got some extra hours staying until some late evening shift employee straggled in.  Now that shift was a joke.  There was NO dinner rush because everyone who works in or near Detroit scrambles home - nobody stays around if they can help it.  And there was a lot of employee scamming in the evening.  So I guess in the &quot;right&quot; place and time you can flip hamburgers without working hard, but in most cases it&#039;s hard work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing&#8230;I suppose flipping hamburgers can be an okay job under favorable conditions.</p>
<p>I worked on 8 Mile.  Yeah, THAT 8 Mile.  With thousands of office workers within blocks, who would slam us every weekday at lunchtime.</p>
<p>I used to do the opening stuff, including scrubbing the grills which had soaked overnight in an acid tank.  Then I&#8217;d do the setup and get everything going.  Then we&#8217;d get slammed.  When I got home I was soaked.</p>
<p>A few times I got some extra hours staying until some late evening shift employee straggled in.  Now that shift was a joke.  There was NO dinner rush because everyone who works in or near Detroit scrambles home &#8211; nobody stays around if they can help it.  And there was a lot of employee scamming in the evening.  So I guess in the &#8220;right&#8221; place and time you can flip hamburgers without working hard, but in most cases it&#8217;s hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/12/20/luck-has-nothing-to-do-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-191539</link>
		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Citizen said:

&lt;i&gt;You]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen said:</p>
<p><i>You</i></p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/12/20/luck-has-nothing-to-do-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-191531</link>
		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason H said:

&lt;i&gt;Luck means nothing, hard work means everything. If you don]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason H said:</p>
<p><i>Luck means nothing, hard work means everything. If you don</i></p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think Rust Belt, 1981.  The regional economy was in the tank.  I had a liberal arts degree with a minor in comp sci.  Most IT employers wouldn&#039;t even talk to me because they thought I didn&#039;t have &quot;enough&quot; CS.

Two-thirds of graduating students were leaving the state to find jobs because the area economy was so bad.

The emerging PC soon rendered my mainframe skills obsolete, or at least unsaleable - there were far more experienced mainframers than the shrinking number of available job openings.

As if my lack of skills weren&#039;t bad enough, now my age and job stsgnation  surely must be powerful obstacles to advancement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Rust Belt, 1981.  The regional economy was in the tank.  I had a liberal arts degree with a minor in comp sci.  Most IT employers wouldn&#8217;t even talk to me because they thought I didn&#8217;t have &#8220;enough&#8221; CS.</p>
<p>Two-thirds of graduating students were leaving the state to find jobs because the area economy was so bad.</p>
<p>The emerging PC soon rendered my mainframe skills obsolete, or at least unsaleable &#8211; there were far more experienced mainframers than the shrinking number of available job openings.</p>
<p>As if my lack of skills weren&#8217;t bad enough, now my age and job stsgnation  surely must be powerful obstacles to advancement.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although i&#039;m 100% percent on your side on that i&#039;d just like to add that maybe you can tell that you have had luck to earn the present knowledge and strenght... knowledge + hard word makes you go anywhere ( and way further than credit-cards ownership)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although i&#8217;m 100% percent on your side on that i&#8217;d just like to add that maybe you can tell that you have had luck to earn the present knowledge and strenght&#8230; knowledge + hard word makes you go anywhere ( and way further than credit-cards ownership)</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason H - You completely side-stepped my criticism.  There is not enough money in shelters, etc. for all of the homeless people in our nation.  You have no right to say that those people do not try to &quot;help themselves.&quot;  How is a homeless person supposed to get a job?  They have no good clothes, no ability to bathe themselves, no address to which the companies can correspond.  It is not a simple as you wish to see it, but you continue to do so, so that you can feel less guilty about treating them with contempt and congratulating yourself on your hard work.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard someone defend Scrooge, but whatever.  I need to stop reading this blog, it puts me in a bad mood.  Have a great Christmas, but that&#039;s probably not possible because it involves giving to others and engaging in other altruistic activities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason H &#8211; You completely side-stepped my criticism.  There is not enough money in shelters, etc. for all of the homeless people in our nation.  You have no right to say that those people do not try to &#8220;help themselves.&#8221;  How is a homeless person supposed to get a job?  They have no good clothes, no ability to bathe themselves, no address to which the companies can correspond.  It is not a simple as you wish to see it, but you continue to do so, so that you can feel less guilty about treating them with contempt and congratulating yourself on your hard work.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard someone defend Scrooge, but whatever.  I need to stop reading this blog, it puts me in a bad mood.  Have a great Christmas, but that&#8217;s probably not possible because it involves giving to others and engaging in other altruistic activities.</p>
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