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	<title>Comments on: Stores Profit On Customers Bad Math Skills</title>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-49625</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a math teacher pointing out this same common mistake by asking the class to figure out (100 - 25%) + 25%.  Most people assumed the answer was 100.  It is 93.75.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a math teacher pointing out this same common mistake by asking the class to figure out (100 - 25%) + 25%.  Most people assumed the answer was 100.  It is 93.75.</p>
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		<title>By: Become's Pocket Change</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-49397</link>
		<dc:creator>Become's Pocket Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Carnival of Shopping #15...&lt;/strong&gt;

Ladies and gentlemen, brace yourselves for a wondrous collection of shopping related goodness. Our in-flight movie will be Weekend at Bernie's 2---and please refrain from crossing the streams. That would be bad. Thank you. Let us begin our journey wit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Carnival of Shopping #15&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, brace yourselves for a wondrous collection of shopping related goodness. Our in-flight movie will be Weekend at Bernie&#8217;s 2&#8212;and please refrain from crossing the streams. That would be bad. Thank you. Let us begin our journey wit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stores Attempt To Fools Customers</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-49291</link>
		<dc:creator>Stores Attempt To Fools Customers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a better explanation of the maths involved and how it works take a look at the Personal Finance Advice [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a better explanation of the maths involved and how it works take a look at the Personal Finance Advice [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ToothCutter</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-47814</link>
		<dc:creator>ToothCutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 18:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard of these kinds of activities in the furniture and home-renovation stores.  Especially the self-proclaimed 'luxury' stores.

I've also seen people line up at recent CompUSA closure sales to buy duble-discounted items that still end up being more expensive than something you can pick up at Amazon or Newegg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard of these kinds of activities in the furniture and home-renovation stores.  Especially the self-proclaimed &#8216;luxury&#8217; stores.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also seen people line up at recent CompUSA closure sales to buy duble-discounted items that still end up being more expensive than something you can pick up at Amazon or Newegg.</p>
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		<title>By: livingplanet</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-47764</link>
		<dc:creator>livingplanet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a possibility, but don't people use the calculator in their cellphone?  the wifey and i usually do.  we've actually become mentally lazy and so use the cellphone calculator...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a possibility, but don&#8217;t people use the calculator in their cellphone?  the wifey and i usually do.  we&#8217;ve actually become mentally lazy and so use the cellphone calculator&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-47625</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree with your general conclusion, I believe your premise is wrong. As Michael said, no store does it that way. The key point is most people will take a mental shortcut and add the two discounts before multiplying the sum against the price, rather than multiplying the price against the discounts (which always results in a higher number). It's like pricing something at 99 cents instead of a dollar; the psychological effect is thinking you're getting a better deal than you really are. In other words, the store has to a) give up less money on every item in a sale to b) sway those people on the margin (and who also can't, or can't be bothered, to do the correct math) and boost sales volume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree with your general conclusion, I believe your premise is wrong. As Michael said, no store does it that way. The key point is most people will take a mental shortcut and add the two discounts before multiplying the sum against the price, rather than multiplying the price against the discounts (which always results in a higher number). It&#8217;s like pricing something at 99 cents instead of a dollar; the psychological effect is thinking you&#8217;re getting a better deal than you really are. In other words, the store has to a) give up less money on every item in a sale to b) sway those people on the margin (and who also can&#8217;t, or can&#8217;t be bothered, to do the correct math) and boost sales volume.</p>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
		<link>http://www.pfadvice.com/2007/05/17/stores-profit-on-customers-bad-math-skills/#comment-47538</link>
		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 00:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What he was pointing out would be applied if two stores had the same item and one had a 45% off sticker and the other had a 25% off sticker, and a big sign on the counter "EVERYTHING 25% OFF AT THE REGISTER!!!111!One!"

You may be inclined to shop at the 25+25 store because doing quick math in your head it would seem like you are getting 50% off vs 45% off when in fact you are not.

If more stores start doing this and it works, then the idea will catch on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he was pointing out would be applied if two stores had the same item and one had a 45% off sticker and the other had a 25% off sticker, and a big sign on the counter &#8220;EVERYTHING 25% OFF AT THE REGISTER!!!111!One!&#8221;</p>
<p>You may be inclined to shop at the 25+25 store because doing quick math in your head it would seem like you are getting 50% off vs 45% off when in fact you are not.</p>
<p>If more stores start doing this and it works, then the idea will catch on.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 20:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be true that one discount is better than another, but I have yet to see a store that does it that way. No store I know of offers a choice of discounts, it's just there, and that's the discount.

I know that I'm not getting as good a deal, but what am I going to do about it if I need the product?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be true that one discount is better than another, but I have yet to see a store that does it that way. No store I know of offers a choice of discounts, it&#8217;s just there, and that&#8217;s the discount.</p>
<p>I know that I&#8217;m not getting as good a deal, but what am I going to do about it if I need the product?</p>
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