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		<title>By: marin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s stupid that the owners pay their waiters minimum wage and take all the profit and enforce me (a customer) to pay for a drink and pay the waiter when all should be included in the price, and he should pay the waiter.
(I am interested how can you get a loan when you have that small income) I personally don&#039;t mind paying the beer 10 dollars, but I would mind paying 7 and giving 3 more to the waiter, it&#039;s extortion. But I don&#039;t live in the usa and can&#039;t understain that,as where I am from the waiters get paid for their work by their employees and they get tipped only if they offer a great service with a smile and a couple of kind gestures, but the tip isn&#039;t even close to 15-20 %

I own a bar and as an owner I would be glad to have this kind of system because I would pay a lot less taxes and give a smaller salary to my employees, but as an customer I only tip people that deserve to be tipped, I hate seeing people serve me who don&#039;t like their jobs, but in general  I don&#039;t tip because the waiters aren&#039;t the only people who do hard work but they are the only ones getting tipped for it. 

But if I visit the states I wont forget to tip as from what you said that&#039;s their only source of income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s stupid that the owners pay their waiters minimum wage and take all the profit and enforce me (a customer) to pay for a drink and pay the waiter when all should be included in the price, and he should pay the waiter.<br />
(I am interested how can you get a loan when you have that small income) I personally don&#8217;t mind paying the beer 10 dollars, but I would mind paying 7 and giving 3 more to the waiter, it&#8217;s extortion. But I don&#8217;t live in the usa and can&#8217;t understain that,as where I am from the waiters get paid for their work by their employees and they get tipped only if they offer a great service with a smile and a couple of kind gestures, but the tip isn&#8217;t even close to 15-20 %</p>
<p>I own a bar and as an owner I would be glad to have this kind of system because I would pay a lot less taxes and give a smaller salary to my employees, but as an customer I only tip people that deserve to be tipped, I hate seeing people serve me who don&#8217;t like their jobs, but in general  I don&#8217;t tip because the waiters aren&#8217;t the only people who do hard work but they are the only ones getting tipped for it. </p>
<p>But if I visit the states I wont forget to tip as from what you said that&#8217;s their only source of income.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tipping system in the US is very different from Belgium. I read this because I&#039;m planning to go to the US.  Both the article and the comments gave me some sound advice.

I&#039;m amazed at how little waiters get paid, $2 an hour sounds really insane. I will glady tip them when I&#039;m staying in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tipping system in the US is very different from Belgium. I read this because I&#8217;m planning to go to the US.  Both the article and the comments gave me some sound advice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed at how little waiters get paid, $2 an hour sounds really insane. I will glady tip them when I&#8217;m staying in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to tipping I take the &quot;People first&quot; approach.  If you take the &quot;I am going to be a cheap a** money first&quot; approach and you don&#039;t pay people for their service you will not be treated near as good as you could be.  Remember people can refuse to serve you in many places so don&#039;t be cheap!!! TIP!! What goes around comes around. If you are not satisfied with your service leave a note or explain, but still tip at least 10%.  This way a person can still pay their bills and will understand that they need to improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to tipping I take the &#8220;People first&#8221; approach.  If you take the &#8220;I am going to be a cheap a** money first&#8221; approach and you don&#8217;t pay people for their service you will not be treated near as good as you could be.  Remember people can refuse to serve you in many places so don&#8217;t be cheap!!! TIP!! What goes around comes around. If you are not satisfied with your service leave a note or explain, but still tip at least 10%.  This way a person can still pay their bills and will understand that they need to improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like it when the gratuity is added automatically as one reader pointed out. I have always thought that the purpose of tipping was to reward either good food or service, or both. By adding it automatically, where is the incentive to provide diners with good service? My father, who has eaten at many, many four and five star restaurants, which by the way doesn&#039;t mean that you will automatically get good service just because of the rating, almost always based his tip on the service provided just by the waiter/waitress, not based on the quality of the food which is an issue for the chef and or manager. If the service was good he left 20%, but if the service was poor he has been known to only leave a penny. When I asked him why he said that if you didn&#039;t leave anything then the waitress might have thought that it just slipped your mind, whereas leaving just a penny told her that the quality of her service was poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like it when the gratuity is added automatically as one reader pointed out. I have always thought that the purpose of tipping was to reward either good food or service, or both. By adding it automatically, where is the incentive to provide diners with good service? My father, who has eaten at many, many four and five star restaurants, which by the way doesn&#8217;t mean that you will automatically get good service just because of the rating, almost always based his tip on the service provided just by the waiter/waitress, not based on the quality of the food which is an issue for the chef and or manager. If the service was good he left 20%, but if the service was poor he has been known to only leave a penny. When I asked him why he said that if you didn&#8217;t leave anything then the waitress might have thought that it just slipped your mind, whereas leaving just a penny told her that the quality of her service was poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always tip between 15-20% for adequate and above average service. (Except in Europe where tips are figured into the meal price) I have absolutely no problem, however, with leaving change or nothing for terrible service. In one experience dining out, after having been seated with orders taken, we did not see the server again until the food was ready. After the plates were set down, we never saw the server again. Never checked to see if everything was in order. (We didn&#039;t receive an order of soup) Never saw a refill for drinks. Had to call over a server from another section to get the bill. Of course that server received no tip because she did nothing to warrant a tip.

That being said, I also left a 500% tip on a $2 tab in the 1980&#039;s for an exceptionally attentive server who kept my friend and I topped off with coffee for nearly 2 hours during a late night stop at a cafe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always tip between 15-20% for adequate and above average service. (Except in Europe where tips are figured into the meal price) I have absolutely no problem, however, with leaving change or nothing for terrible service. In one experience dining out, after having been seated with orders taken, we did not see the server again until the food was ready. After the plates were set down, we never saw the server again. Never checked to see if everything was in order. (We didn&#8217;t receive an order of soup) Never saw a refill for drinks. Had to call over a server from another section to get the bill. Of course that server received no tip because she did nothing to warrant a tip.</p>
<p>That being said, I also left a 500% tip on a $2 tab in the 1980&#8217;s for an exceptionally attentive server who kept my friend and I topped off with coffee for nearly 2 hours during a late night stop at a cafe.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a fine dining restaurant in a casino as a server and I make 7.50 an hour. on slow nights I take home 200 in tips and on good nights I can take as much as 500 waiting on 6-10 tables so I can easily say I love working as a server. Even bussers can walk out with 90 bucks in their pockets just from tips that we pay them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a fine dining restaurant in a casino as a server and I make 7.50 an hour. on slow nights I take home 200 in tips and on good nights I can take as much as 500 waiting on 6-10 tables so I can easily say I love working as a server. Even bussers can walk out with 90 bucks in their pockets just from tips that we pay them.</p>
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		<title>By: NancyNurse</title>
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		<dc:creator>NancyNurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piano Man, I&#039;m so sorry to have insulted you by giving you money.  I&#039;ll be sure not to make that mistake twice.
And Mr. Shaw, the entire point of percentages is that the amount you get rises with inflation as well as the price of the bill.  For example, 20% of a $50 bill is $10, whereas 20% of a $100 bill is $20.  So no matter what inflation does to prices, if people continue to tip the same amount in percentages, your wages will actually rise with inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piano Man, I&#8217;m so sorry to have insulted you by giving you money.  I&#8217;ll be sure not to make that mistake twice.<br />
And Mr. Shaw, the entire point of percentages is that the amount you get rises with inflation as well as the price of the bill.  For example, 20% of a $50 bill is $10, whereas 20% of a $100 bill is $20.  So no matter what inflation does to prices, if people continue to tip the same amount in percentages, your wages will actually rise with inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left a long comment in here about tipping.  I&#039;ve been a bartender for years.  All I want to say to those who balk at the idea of tipping an appropriate amount... do everyone a favor and work and support yourself in the service industry and then leave a comment about not wanting to tip or complain about percentages.  And the inflation comment in regards to percentage.  Why would the tip percent stay the same while inflation makes meals more expensive? This is how we support ourselves and pay our bills, groceries, etc... which also suffers inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a long comment in here about tipping.  I&#8217;ve been a bartender for years.  All I want to say to those who balk at the idea of tipping an appropriate amount&#8230; do everyone a favor and work and support yourself in the service industry and then leave a comment about not wanting to tip or complain about percentages.  And the inflation comment in regards to percentage.  Why would the tip percent stay the same while inflation makes meals more expensive? This is how we support ourselves and pay our bills, groceries, etc&#8230; which also suffers inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes food is expensive. But the reason is restaurants and many other busineses are paying very high rent. So the ones really taking 
If you don’t really have much money, stay home and buy some groceries and cook at home. You should not expend money eating out then.&quot;

So eating out should just be for rich people so you can get an inflated wage? Do you really think there are enough rich people to go around?  Do you think restaurants exist without the average customer?  Unbelievable! And since you&#039;re so struggling I suppose you never allow yourself the privilige of going out hmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes food is expensive. But the reason is restaurants and many other busineses are paying very high rent. So the ones really taking<br />
If you don’t really have much money, stay home and buy some groceries and cook at home. You should not expend money eating out then.&#8221;</p>
<p>So eating out should just be for rich people so you can get an inflated wage? Do you really think there are enough rich people to go around?  Do you think restaurants exist without the average customer?  Unbelievable! And since you&#8217;re so struggling I suppose you never allow yourself the privilige of going out hmm?</p>
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		<title>By: Francesca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoah!  I just read the rest of the comments.  I am shocked! I used to have such sympathy for customer service people, now I almost want to never ever tip them again. And I usually double the tax. What a bunch of ingrates! OK I&#039;ll stay home, and when you run out of rich people who are made out of money who you give the privilige of serving them and are unemployed, maybe you&#039;ll start to appreciate the customer.

You are worse than homeless beggers.  And piano man, I&#039;ll take your advice then, and give you nothing.  Since I actually work pretty hard for just that one dollar that&#039;s not enough for you. Shocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoah!  I just read the rest of the comments.  I am shocked! I used to have such sympathy for customer service people, now I almost want to never ever tip them again. And I usually double the tax. What a bunch of ingrates! OK I&#8217;ll stay home, and when you run out of rich people who are made out of money who you give the privilige of serving them and are unemployed, maybe you&#8217;ll start to appreciate the customer.</p>
<p>You are worse than homeless beggers.  And piano man, I&#8217;ll take your advice then, and give you nothing.  Since I actually work pretty hard for just that one dollar that&#8217;s not enough for you. Shocking.</p>
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